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Second.
Hon. Dr. Ho Kai said that he thought the
certificate of the Consul ought to be final except in case
of fraud or forgery. Mr. Taft said that personally he con-
-curred in this view and that the proclamation of the
President tended strongly in that direction; that of
course the corruption which had heretofore existed had been
an obstacle in the way of giving the certificate of the
Consuls the weight that ought really to attach to them, but in view of the steps already referred to, he thought
that the tendency of Congress and the President would be
toward giving much more weight than had heretofore attached
to the certificate of the American Consular Officers in
China.
Third.
Hon. Dr. Ho Kai called attention to the
fact that there were quite a number of merchants and
students who were subjects of Great Britain, in Hongkong
Colony and in the Straits Settlements; that there were
others who were citizens of the Republic of France in
Tonkin and Saigon, and that there still others who were
citizens of the Kingdom of Holland in the Dutch East
Indies; he said that these were gentlemen of wealth and
education, who did not visit America because they would not
accept the humiliation of being subjected to the necessity
of producing a certificate, but he thought that all the
security would be given to the United States that it ought
to require by a passport describing their status as mer-
chants or students and as subjects or citizens of their
respective Goverments, vised by the proper American Consul;
that this would affect a very few persons; would be entire-
-ly safe, so far as the United States was concerned, be-
-cause the United States might depend implicitly on the
honesty of the Government Officials vised by the proper
American Consul; and yet the change by which they should be
allowed to come in under a passport would be most gratify-
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